Putting a question to Richard Holden MP, Conservative Party Chairman, on 22 February 2024, at the excellent Chesham and Amersham Association dinner The question was: Under the Conservative Party Constitution it states that "The Leader shall determine the political direction of the Party having regard to the views of Party members and the Conservative Policy Forum" Now that there are no longer motions for debate at the Party Conference how does the Leader get the views of the ordinary Party Members? Needless to say I did not get an answer, although the Party Chairman said "What a great question!" and then proceeded to talk only about the Conservative Policy Forum! What about the ordinary Party Members?
Our Fight For Democracy
John Strafford is a political commentator, writer and historian; author of Our Fight for Democracy. John has a long political history of activism (leading the Conservative campaign for Yes to AV) and has been an active member of the political community through out the decades - with regular Newsnight,Today,and World at One appearances.
Pages
- Home
- "Our Fight for Democracy"
- Index of book
- Preface of "Our Fight for Democracy"
- Book - Order Form
- Introduction - The Meaning of Democracy
- Roman Britain to Magna Carta - 1215
- Parliament to the Divine Right of Kings 1216 to 1603
- Monarchy to a Republic and back 1603-1685
- Bill of Rights to the American War of Independence - 1685 to 1780
- Pitt the Younger to Catholic Emancipation - 1780 to 1830
- The Great Reform Act and its aftermath - 1830 to 1860
- The Second Reform Act to the end of the Century 1860 to 1900
- The Twentieth Century - Votes for women at last - 1900 to 1928
- Constitutional Crisis to the present - 1929 to date
- Conclusions
- The Institutions and other aspects of Democracy - Local Government, Assemblies
Wednesday, March 6, 2024
Thursday, February 29, 2024
Therese Coffey MP - Are we governed by an oligarchy?
Question to Therese Coffey at the Institute of Government 19th February 2024 watch from 42minutes in!
Wednesday, February 7, 2024
Friday, January 19, 2024
Wednesday, December 27, 2023
Letter to the Prime Minister Conservative Party Objects and Values
Campaign for Conservative Democracy
C. O. P. O. V - CONSERVATIVE ONE PERSON ONE VOTE
The Rt. Hon. Rishi Sunak M.P, 21st December 2023
10 Downing Street,
Westminster,
London SW1A 2AA
Dear Prime Minister,
Conservative Objects and Values
The Conservative Party Constitution emphasizes the objects and values of the Party:
“PART 1 NAME, PURPOSE OBJECTS AND
VALUES This is the Constitution of a
political party which shall be known as “The Conservative and Unionist Party”
(referred to in this Constitution as “the Party”). . 1 Its purpose is to sustain and promote within the Nation the objects and values of the Conservative
Party. PART II MEMBERSHIP The Party is a political
Party for the Nation, open to all who share its objects and values and who
undertake to be bound by this Constitution.”
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Nowhere within the Constitution does it state
what the objects and values are!
Many loyal members of our Conservative Party, and perhaps more importantly, the General Public are no longer clear exactly in what the Conservative Party believes. We feel it is imperative that our Party’s objects and values are clearly outlined so that it will help the Conservative Party win the next General Election.
It has become apparent during 2023 that many Conservative voters are staying at home and not voting. We believe that a reminder of Conservative objects and values will give our supporters good reason to turn out and vote for Conservative candidates.
The attached document has been developed with that in mind. The statement is concise and expounds what we believe is the central core of the Conservative Party It has been seen and endorsed by the Campaign for Conservative Democracy, and we hope that you will approve it and incorporate it within the Party’s Constitution. A copy is also being sent to Richard Holden MP as Chairman of the Conservative Party, John Penrose MP as Chairman of the CPF, Peter Booth, Chairman of the National Convention and Sir Graham Brady, Chairman of the 1922 Committee
We want the Conservative Party to win the next General Election. We want the Party’s message to be clear and concise and hope you will agree this document will clarify both for Party members and the general public what are the Party’s objects and values.
Yours sincerely,
JOHN E STRAFFORD
Chairman of the
Campaign for Conservative Democracy
c.c. Richard Holden Esq MP; John Penrose Esq MP; Peter Booth Esq, and Sir Graham Brady MP
.
Tuesday, December 12, 2023
Choosing your parliamentary Candidate - Due Dilligence
A meeting at UCL with the Conservative Party and the Labour Party discussing due dilligence amongst other matters. Do not miss Questions and Answers!
Tuesday, November 14, 2023
Questions and Answers session on the Selection of Conservative Party Candidates
View this session on the questions and answers at the Conservative Party Conference fringe meeting held on 3rd October and organised by the Campaign for Conservative Democracy and the Conservative Democratic Organisation.
Monday, November 6, 2023
What the process should be for the Selection of Conservative Party Parliamentary Candidates
A speech given by John Strafford at a fringe meeting of the Conservative Party Conference held on October 3rd 2023 organised by the Campaign for Conservative Democracy and the Conservative Democratic Organisation setting out the process agreed at the Conservative Democratic Organisation Conference in May 2023. To watch click here!
Monday, October 30, 2023
A "History of the Selection of Conservative Party Candidates"
Speech given by John Strafford at a fringe meeting at the Tory Party Conference on 3 October 2023 organised by the Campaign for Conservative Democracy and the Conservative Democratic Organisation.
Monday, September 25, 2023
Conservative Party Conference Dates for your diary - updated
CONFERENCE FRINGE PROGRAMME ANNOUNCED!!!
The meetings will be held at Friends Meeting House, 6 Mount Street, Manchester, M2 5NS
MESSAGE FROM CDO PARTY CHAIRMAN, David Campbell Bannerman
Dear CDO Members,
RE: CDO FRINGE PROGRAMME NOW ANNOUNCED!
I am delighted to let you know that as well as the excellent Black Tie Gala Dinner coming together so well for Sunday 1st October (don’t be disappointed – please book now as selling out fast!) we can now announce an impressive Fringe.
CDO is offering a full Conference Fringe Programme, and we can now reveal the details. All these events are hosted in what we are calling the ‘Democracy Zone’, which we are sponsoring, in cooperation with the Bruges Group.
This is our Fringe:
Monday 2nd October 6pm to 7.30pm – we are honoured to be hosting one of our CDO Patrons, and now a TV star presenter through GB News and the ‘State of the Nation’ Programme, Jacob Rees Mogg MP to talk about the importance of democracy to the Conservative Party. This will be at 6pm-7.30pm Monday, with questions afterwards. Jacob as you know is a highly principled and intelligent MP who served as Business Secretary and was Chairman of the ERG (European Research Group) at a key moment. Chaired by David Campbell Bannerman.
Tuesday 3rd October 11am to 12.30pm – ‘Selection of Candidates – All You Need to Know’ – Joint session with COPOV (Campaign for One Member One Vote). A Question and Answer briefing session useful for those standing as candidates or those involved or interested in selecting candidates, especially Parliamentary candidates. Hosted by Constitutional Expert John Strafford, Chairman of COPOV and CDO’s Constitutional Adviser, and CDO’s Mike Rouse, who has overseen a number of candidate selections and is an expert on the rules of Candidate Selection.
Tuesday 3rd October 1pm to 2.30pm – ‘How Democracy can save Conservatism’. Panel session with top journalists Allison Pearson a senior columnist at the Daily Telegraph, Author and Presenter, Emily Carver, Presenter with GB News and formerly of IEA, and our CDO Patron Priti Patel MP, former Home Secretary, International Development Secretary, Employment and Treasury Minister and a great believer in backing the members. Chaired by David Campbell Bannerman.
NOTE: These fringe meetings are all outside the Party Conference area, so that means you do not need a Conference security pass to get there. Which may save you quite a bit of cost; especially at this late stage. You can just turn up and support us there. If you do have a pass, the venue is very close to the Conference Centre so it is easy to pop in and out of Conference to attend.
Please do support CDO at these four major events at Conference – it is important to show backing for our aims and objectives to take back control of the party democratically and to support our excellent Patrons, supporters and members. I look forward to seeing you there!
Best wishes
David
David Campbell Bannerman
Monday, August 21, 2023
Conservative Democratic Organisation Newsletter No. 3
Read here the latest newsletter from CDO. It includes a link to John Strafford's speech to the Party Conference in 1997. Relevant today!
Monday, August 14, 2023
Letter from the Party Chairman to CDO!
Here is the latest news from CDO including a letter from Greg Hands, Conservative Party Chairman, also save the date October 1st for our next Gala Dinner.
Monday, August 7, 2023
Monday, July 31, 2023
Speech by John Strafford about the Conservative Democratic Organisation
Speech made by John Strafford on July 8th to the Taplow Branch of the Beaconsfield Constituency Conservative Association about the Conservative Democratic Organisation. Watch Here!
Tuesday, July 18, 2023
Priti Patel MP speaks for real Conservatives!
Priti Patel MP made a great speech at the Conservative Democratic Conference on May 13th at the Bournemouth International Conference centre. Here is an extract from the speech.
Thursday, July 13, 2023
The CDO Award to John Strafford
Watch a full account of the Conservative Democratic Organisation Cleithenes Award to John Strafford on May 13th 2023 at the Bournemouth International Convention Centre.
Thursday, July 6, 2023
Monday, June 19, 2023
Update on the Conservative Democratic Organisation
Update on CDO
Wednesday, June 14, 2023
Conservatives, Hope for the Future!
At the Conservative Democratic Organisation Conference on May 13th 2023 John Strafford moved the motions for debate to make the Conservative Party a democratic organisation. All were passed by an overwhelming majority. Here is his winding up speech>
Monday, June 5, 2023
Democracy in Action - Motions for Debate
At the Conservative Democratic Organisation Conference on 13th May 2023 seven critical changes to the Conservative Party Constitution were proposed and passed overwhelmingly. Time for the Conservative Party to act!
Wednesday, May 24, 2023
Conservative Democratic Organisation Conference
Watch this first speech by John Strafford at the CDO Conference in Bournemouth on 13 May 2023. This is the start of the revival of the Conservative Party and will be welcomed by all those who believe in democracy
Tuesday, May 9, 2023
Join us at the Conservative Democratic Conference in Bournemouth on May 13th
At last the voice of the members of the Conservative Party will be heard.
Come to the Conservative Democratic Organisation Conference on 13th May. I look forward to seeing you.
Tuesday, December 27, 2022
Tuesday, December 13, 2022
Launch of the Conservative Democratic Organisation - complete article!
The complete article as published in the Sunday Express Online 11 December 2022
22:00, Sat, Dec 10, 2022, | UPDATED: 10:16, Sun, Dec 11, 2022
The coronation of Sunak as PM ended faith in the Tory MPs - members must take back control
The appointment, or ‘coronation', of Rishi Sunak as British Prime Minister, without a vote being cast by Conservative Party members, and just a month after Sunak was rejected in a comprehensive member voting process has finally ended members' faith in any party democracy existing within the Conservative Party.
By LORD CRUDDAS, AND DAVID CAMPBELL BANNERMAN
As one member aptly put it: “There’s a deficit in party democracy, what they’ve said is we want your money, your time, and resources but we don’t want your opinion. After 40 years, I’m out. I won’t vote and I won’t forgive.”
The members’ vote led to many MPs rigging the voting process so that neither candidate was put to members for a vote – Boris had 102 and Mordaunt 98 – with media reports of threats and incentives to MPs supporting non-Sunak candidates to switch taking place all weekend before the vote.
Some of these MPs are reported even to be crowing over how successfully they blocked party members from having any say.
It is extraordinary to agree with the Daily Mirror when its front page asks: ‘Who Voted For You?’ and the Scottish Daily Record concluding this was the ‘Death of Democracy’.
It is the influence of these MPs that has robbed members of a vote on the Leader – which is hailed in membership literature as a right: saying ‘choosing candidates and vote in leadership elections - you can choose the people you want to represent you.’ This for an unwise hike in membership fees of 55% - to £39.
With the loss of a real say over MP selections, and now the Party Leader, and Party Conferences losing the ability to meet Ministers and influence policy through debates and resolutions, the ‘product offering’ of party membership is fast dying out.
Membership has fallen from 500,000 when the new 1998 Constitution was introduced to 172,000 members who voted in the 2022 Leadership election.
That figure itself had been boosted when Boris Johnson became Leader and is now falling fast.
The 56 percent rise in the cost of membership announced earlier this week will undoubtedly reduce membership numbers even further.
Members are overwhelmingly feeling ignored, steamrollered, and held in utter contempt by party leaders – feeling that their views count for nothing; and yet MPs expect them to do most of the work at elections.
This is a natural consequence of the demolition by CCHQ (Conservative Campaign Headquarters) of lines of communication between the members and the Parliamentary Party since that 1998 Party Constitution was enacted by William Hague. All the checks and balances which existed prior to 1998 were abolished.
It is little wonder now that a huge number of resignations have followed – the Telegraph suggesting at least one fifth of members left.
The member cancelling page on the Party’s website crashed. Comment groups are still alive with angry members resigning and attacking the lack of democracy.
The constitutional expert and party democracy campaigner John Strafford helped draft the 1998 Constitution, but saw the democratic elements subsequently removed. He also wrote the Conservative Women’s Organisation (CWO) constitution.
A dismayed Mr Strafford explains that the situation today is that “the Chairman and Treasurer of the Party are appointed by the Leader so are unaccountable to the membership; there is no Annual General Meeting of members, so there is no formal forum for members to raise questions about the Party’s organisation, and the annual accounts are not tabled for approval at an AGM.”
“Selection of parliamentary candidates is controlled centrally, and the Party Board can take control of any constituency association which does not toe the line – and has done so. Basically, the Conservative Party is now a self-perpetuating oligarchy.”
But the solution is not for party members to create yet another new party, in an increasingly crowded field; especially when in a first-past-the-post system such parties are lucky to reach one per cent or two per cent vote share; and tend to win no seats.
Instead, loyal Conservative Party members should come together to create – or indeed recreate – a truly democratic Conservative Party.
This is best done by a return to the successful pre-1998 model of a National Union of independent democratic Conservative Associations, to whom a smaller Central Office reports, and the end of the centralising 1998 Party Constitution, which has brought in excessive centralised control and social engineering at the expense of merit and democracy.
It is time for ordinary Conservative Party members to ‘take back control’. That is why we are establishing the Conservative Democratic Organisation (CDO), a new membership organisation to revitalise the current Conservative Party, shape its future values and structure and, crucially, eliminate its serious democratic failings.
Over the next few months, we will begin the formation of independent CDO Conservative associations across the UK and launch a new Party Constitution to propose to the Conservative Party.
David Campbell Bannerman is the Chairman of The Freedom Association
Our proposals include:
Directly electing the roles of Conservative Party Chairman, Deputy Chairman, Treasurer, Chairman of the Candidates Committee and Chairman of the Policy Forum.
Giving constituency associations the right to determine who their Conservative parliamentary candidate is with minimum interference by CCHQ. This includes both selecting and deselecting candidates.
Scrapping the National Convention and replacing it with a General Meeting of the Party. This will stop the Party hierarchy from rubber stamping decisions.
The Spring Conference becoming a Policy Conference, located in a more affordable place, where Ministers would listen to members’ ideas on policies in their subject area, selected by motions submitted through local associations, as used to be standard.
The full October Party Conferences should be restored to their original glory, with the membership back in control, including motions for debates and votes.
The Conservative Party is the most successful political party in the world. We do not need to replace it with a new centre-right party.
We need to revitalise it and reposition it back where it belongs - representing core conservative values. This is only possible by long overdue, serious, revolutionary reform of the way the Party functions.
Friday, November 11, 2022
Tuesday, October 18, 2022
Wednesday, September 28, 2022
Invitation to attend Conservative Party Conference Fringe Event
Campaign for Conservative Democracy
invites you to attend:
1) Time for Conservative Party members to take control?
- Six Essential Reforms.
2) Leadership Election –
a Distortion of Democracy?
3) Conservative Philosophy and Values (see over)
-
Discuss and debate.
TUESDAY 4th OCTOBER 2022
– 3pm
Lyttleton Lecture
Theatre, Birmingham and Midland Institute, 9 Margaret Street, B3 3BS
Speakers: David Campbell-Bannerman Former MEP, John Strafford, and
Graham Thomas
Chair: Mike Baker
ConservativesOnePersonOneVote
Friday, August 12, 2022
Does the Conservative Party have any values?
Are You a Conservative? Find out now!
In order to be a member of the Conservative Party you have to agree to share its objects and values (shouldn’t that be objectives and values?). Throughout the Constitution there is mention of the “Objects and Values”, and yet nowhere is there any definition or explanation of what these Objects and Values are.
However, under the Code of Conduct for Members and Representatives of the Conservative Party it states:
“Objects and Values” of the Conservative Party
These are set out in the Party Constitution. (where?). The test we use to identify an object and value is objective based on relevant evidence. That evidence may be common or historical knowledge, or common sense, Conservative manifestos past and present, guidance notes from the Party Board, Government policy and speeches from senior Party spokesmen including the Party leader and so on.
Have you ever read such gobbledygook? So, a speech by a senior Party Spokesman can create a Conservative objective and value? Objectives and values should reflect the DNA of the Conservative Party. They should be based on a clear philosophy. We show below our view of what Conservative Philosophy and Values should be. As a Party these are what should unite us.
Extracts from the Constitution of the Conservative Party - Objects and Values
PART I
NAME, PURPOSE, OBJECTS AND VALUES
2 Its purpose is to sustain and promote within the Nation the objects and values of the Conservative Party.
PART II
MEMBERSHIP
3 The Party is a political Party for the Nation, open to all who share its objects and values and who undertake to be bound by this Constitution. The Party shall consist of its Members. Membership of the Conservative Party is not compatible with Membership of or, association with any other registered political party.
PART IV
THE BOARD OF THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY
17.22 The suspension of membership or the expulsion from membership of any member whose conduct is in conflict with the purpose, objects and values of the Party as indicated in Part I Article 2 or which is inconsistent with the objects or financial well-being of an Association or the Party or be likely to bring an Association or the Party into disrepute.
PART V
THE NATIONAL CONSERVATIVE CONVENTION
24 The functions of the National Conservative Convention shall be to
24.1 support and promote the objects and values of the Party.
SCHEDULE 7
RULES OF THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY ASSOCIATIONS COVERING A SINGLE CONSTITUENCY
2 OBJECTS
The Objects of the Association shall be to sustain and promote the objects and values of the Party in the Parliamentary constituency of ...................... (“the Constituency”); to provide an effective campaigning organisation in the Constituency; to secure the return of Conservative Candidates at elections; and to raise the necessary funds to achieve these objectives; to contribute to the central funds of the Party.
We set out below what we believe the Philosophy (Objectives) and Values of the Conservative Party should be: Do you Agree?
Tuesday, February 8, 2022
Conservative Party John Strafford interview with RTTV 5 February 2022
I did an interview with RTTV after they gave me an undertaking that it would not be edited and shown in full like a live interview. Here it is!
Thursday, November 25, 2021
Mulled Wine and Mince Pies Forum December 11th
Come and join us:
Campaign for Conservative Democracy
Forum
11am - 2pm Saturday, 11th December
2021
(coffee served from 10.30am)
@ All Saints Church Hall, Oval Way, Gerrards Cross, Bucks.
SL9 8PZ
AGENDA : Mulled Wine and
Mince Pies Forum
The
Conservative Party
Party
Organisation, Constituency News, Reports, Whats App.
Party
Conference
Questions to the Chairmen, Fringe
meeting, other matters.
Selection
of Candidates for the General Election
Covid
19, What now?
Immigration
Climate
Change Conference. Was it worth it?
How
Democracies Die!
The
History of Democracy in the United Kingdom - A short lecture on democracy – “The Great
Reform Act 1832”.
Any
Other Business
1pm
Lunch: A Ploughman’s Lunch
will be available free of charge but a donation towards our costs of hall hire
and lunch would be much appreciated.
Directions: Go north through Gerrards
Cross on Packhorse Rd, passing Ethorpe Hotel.
Take 1st left into Orchehill Avenue, then 2nd
right into Oval Way. All Saints Church
is on your left past Thorpe House School.
Date
of next meeting: TBA
All
are welcome and do bring a guest
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I will/will not* be able to attend the
meeting on 11th December 2021 *delete as applicable. I enclose a donation. Please complete and return to:
COPOV, 15 North Drive, Beaconsfield,
Bucks. HP9 1TZ
Tel. No. 01494 730599 E-mail:
johnstrafford@btinternet.com
Thursday, October 21, 2021
Northern Ireland. Forget the Sermons - First read the small print.
FORGET THE SERMONS - FIRST READ THE
SMALL PRINT
by
Mike Clitherow
Since before the 2016 referendum and
continuing non-stop, those against GB leaving the EU, Including - Joe
Biden and other
US Democrats , most EU
bureaucrats, several European
politicians (particularly the French) and of course our own Re-joiners
- have been pursuing the following rhetoric:
“You must not go against or interfere
with the 1998 Good Friday Agreement
There
must be No Hard Border between Northern Ireland and the Republic thereby
ensuring peace “.
Well, we all agree with that don’t
we!
BUT the question is how many of these people have actually sat down and studied
in detail what is actually in this
document?. Given that within the GFA there is a
total lack of references to trade - I
suggest not many have actually read it.
They are simply using this agreement
to weaponize and “beat up” the UK for daring
to leave the EU. Others particularly
Sleepy Joe see it as a route to a united Ireland
The point is that now We the Little people need to ask “where is the evidence that any part of this peace agreement is threatened by the UK not being part of this inward-looking Trade Block called the EU and us wanting the whole of our country to be recognised and operate as a free independent sovereign state making its own laws and trading internally without interference ? ”
Have these people read and understood the GFA?
Having read the agreement some years
ago and again recently – On behalf of the Little people I have some queries for
the experts to answer.
- QUESTION - Where is trade/commercial activity mentioned in this
document?
Yes we were part of the EU free trade
area at that the time
it was signed but between
the North & South there are
already two different - currencies - corporation taxes and VAT rates - As well
as different fuel, alcohol and tobacco duties none are mentioned in this
agreement.
However, we have manged to work these
between our two countries for many years
with little problem.
ANSWER - there
is no mention of trade and commercial activity in the GFA.
The Good Friday Agreement –
is a fantastic declaration of peace and disarmament
by both the authorities and the
terrorist gangs of both persuasions including release
of prisoners plus the future
prosperity of N I. - That’s it!
Hard Border - Part of this disarmament and standing down in this agreement is by implication to get rid of any so-called Hard Border by withdrawing the military and their infrastructure along the divide between the North and South.
It’s gone!!! never to return we
hope.
This peace agreement is
wonderfully worded over 35 pages and here are some of the clauses that jump
out.
·
Recognise the legitimacy of whatever
choice is freely exercised by a majority of the people of N I with regard to
its status, whether they prefer to continue their support
of the Union of GB or a sovereign united
Ireland.
·
Democratically elected Assembly in N I
- to protect the rights and interests of
all sides of the community.
·
The Westminster Parliament (whose
power to make legislation for Northern Ireland would remain unaffected)
·
….the British Government will pursue
broad policies for sustained economic growth and stability in N. I.
Yes very selective quotes but for
sure very important as
they are about freedom/peace and the NI population’s ability to make choices
whilst remaining in the UK for the foreseeable future.
OK included in the GFE is reference
to working with the EU but only in as much as a British Irish Council to consider the
EU dimensions in relevant matters…... No mention of a role for the ECJ.
Also, two excellent sections on Decommissioning and Security BUT still no reference to cross border trade.
If you haven’t already done so please read the whole thing yourself then try to figure out how will trading between two countries – one in the EU one out - differ to how smoothly it happens in the majority of the world and how it will it cause murder and bloodshed?
IN CONCLUSION
We of course all know that North to
South checks on goods if kept in line with what
happens in most countries
internationally would be approx. 2% of all shipments
this can mostly be done
electronically and the use of trusted exporter schemes,
Any physical checks if needed can be
done prior to shipment or on arrival in the
Republic away from the border.
THIS THEN CAN NEVER BE CONSIDERED AS
A HARD BORDER
– check out the Switzerland and
Norway interface with the EU.
It’s up to the EU (represented by the Republic Ireland) to sort out the mechanisms if they
don’t trust the UK not to send them
products and produce that will harm their population and environment. Plus, the
South North movement of goods would be very light touch on the British side.
We hear the cry BUT BREXIT has changed everything – NO IT HASN’T - this agreement is and will be respected in full.
NOW: Are all people and groups mentioned in paragraph 1 saying such a system would cause the IRA to start bombing and shooting people again?
· My personal view is No as any shipment delays and refusal of entry would be instigated by the Republic for goods going South. Going the other way would be no real problem.
·
If people really believe yes – then
why is the future of 1,900,000+ peoples future for economic growth and the
ability to have their own elected politicians represent them (rather than
interference from Brussels and the ECJ) is all about pacifying a small
terrorist organisation – makes no sense.
· The real threat is very rowdy demonstrations by Unionists if we do
not stop this nonsense of a border down
the North sea and therefore within our own country.
Of course, all above will be called a simplification
of the situation
– BUT STOP and STEP BACK – perhaps a simple
thought process works.
Feed-back welcomed.
Mike Clitherow